Anybody else fondly remember the earlier Adventure Construction Set from the 1980s? It was similar, though more crude, software but for creating tile based adventure games. I remember breathlessly waiting for it to arrive in the mail one summer when I was a young teen, and then my brother and I spending countless hours creating games for each other to play.
I was so excited bringing that box/album cover home from the store. I read the manual through just imagining the games I’d make. When I got home, I put the disk in, and… learned what “minimum system requirements” were, as it wouldn’t run on my PCjr.
Also Graphical Adventure Creator for the Amstrad CPC. I loved it, but failed to produce even a single adventure. My perfectionist tendencies made sure any progress ground to a halt almost immediately over text, logic or graphics!
My family had a copy of Graphical Adventure Creator too, I similarly failed to produce anything of note but I do remember having a lot of fun playing around with it and trying to design screens.
I, rightly or wrongly, attribute my love of computers to playing around on the family CPC, I really want to encourage that in my kids but I don't know what the equivalent is - I'm pretty sure it's not buying them a tablet, Raspberry Pi 500 maybe?
What I got into before Adventure Construction Set was Stuart Smith's previous game "Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves".
It let you play upto 17 players (locally). Each player would get their turn, in turn, and do their moves, then pass the controller. A slow character might get to move 3 tiles per turn. A fast character 7 tiles per turn. Each character could go in any direction they wanted, the group didn't have to stick together. I played it with 5 people.
Also played it single player. When I got to the end, it challenged you to make it to the end without a single fight. I made it to that end and it had a congrats screen from Stuart Smith.
Yes! Until I saw the box cover illustration, I had totally forgotten that a high-school friend of mine and I worked months to build a Gauntlet clone on our 64K Apple ][+ machines due to the money it was costing us to play it at local game store/nerd magnet, "Dragon's Lair".
I loved those gold box games. Wanted to get into FRUA, but it just didn't work for me and I didn't have a lot of time to really dig into the details.
Those game editors are tough to build. I worked on Bard's Tale Construction Set and it had a lot of issues. My claim to fame is filing the bug report that led to cut & paste being added to the scripting editor.
It's a lot easier to use if you just find and download adventures made by other folks --- there were a fair number, but not sure if they're still around (I hope so).
I do... 20 minutes on an Apple II for it to create a random adventure, which I found fascinating. I actually have the original in my collection. The games weren't bad, kind of like a decent hobby indie game from today.
Now I'm creating adventures in Cursor with MOOLLM and working on compiling them to JavaScript to run in the browser, kind of like The Sims meets LambdaMOO meets Cursor:
Here's an interview where MOOLLM explains itself, then we go on a wild ride with the Irn Bru snowman, with underground embassy intrigue, Columbo style:
Did you ever play The Prisoner? Where you go to the psychiatrist and he asks you all these questions, then the BASIC program crashes and prints an error message like "SYNTAX ERROR IN LINE ####" and beeps, leaving you at the "]" prompt?
But it's really an AppleSoft Basic Prompt Simulation to see how you will deal with the program crashing, judging you on if you go "CONT" or "NEW" or "RUN" or "CATALOG" or "LIST ####"!
What I didn't realize until I just looked it up now:
>In Prisoner 2 (the 1982 remake of the original), the game intentionally simulates a crash by showing a “Syntax error in line ###” message where the line number is actually your secret resignation code. The idea is that you might try to inspect or debug that line and type in the code, thereby revealing it — which is a loss condition because the game’s entire goal is to not give that number up.
I seem to remember using one called AGT (adventure game toolkit) that I'd obtained from some sort of mail away floppy shareware service or something. It's wild to think of how much has changed in the last few decades!
If you want to create an adventure game but your visual skills are lacking, I recommend looking into text adventures! There are great tools for making them these days:
- Inform 7 has annoying syntax but an amazing IDE;
- Inform 6 is somewhat object oriented, has a good Emacs mode and decades of tools;
- Dialog takes the evaluation model of Inform 7 and dresses it in sensible syntax but it is a bit niche so tools are lacking;
Funny, I just started playing The Wise-Woman’s Dog yesterday—it really is excellent!
I’d also secondly endorse Dialog. It’s a really intuitive way to think about the game world as a whole without having to worry about Inform 7’s AppleScript-esque syntax. It’s also grown quite a bit since the community started their own fork: https://github.com/Dialog-IF/dialog
Personally I really enjoy the syntax of Inform 7, but tastes vary and I certainly understand not liking it.
TADS 3 is another option if you prefer a more object-oriented, ALGOL-ish syntax with equivalent power.
The IFComp has run for decades now. If you are interested in good adventures, running through the highly-rated games from over the years is a good idea.
Inform 7 is actually kind of fun to write once you get the hang of it.
What's interesting though is, at least in my experience, LLMs are terrible at generating Inform 7 code specifically because it's so uncanny-valley-similar to English.
Among other things, this got me dabbling with software development. It had an awesome C++ like scripting language.
It also used to have a button with a text like "make a game" where you would click what you wanted in the form of checkboxes and when you pressed the submit button it would tell you something like, it's not that easy, is it? Wonder how easier it may be now. :P
Both creators are now very active on Youtube. Yahtzee has split from The Escapist to create an independent journalism website Second Wind, and Rebecca streams video games as Rebecca's Pixel Quest.
His friend and collaborator Francisco Gonzales (Grundislav) also has a great backlog of games. Besides recent commercial efforts, there's the free Ben Jordan: Paranormal Investigator series: https://www.grundislav.games/Ben-Jordan.html
Hah! Thanks for sharing. Great to see them doing fun stuff. Just watched a quick yatzhee one. I did play a few in the Ben Jordan series and duty and beyond.
Big fan of Chandler's art, though "Old Skies" kept the characters on the same plane, never moving away from "camera" POV. So the whole game felt very flat to me. Hopefully his future works will scale the characters.
I think that Wadjet Eye Games studio still uses AGS for their games, and most (all?) of the games published by them seems to use AGS as well.
I highly recommend checking their catalogue. While the first installements of Blackwell series didn't age that well I still think they are a quite nice starting point – they are short and memorable.
Gemini Rue is probably one of the best game stories I have ever seen. What Joshua Nuernberger did there is amazing. The "twist" that occurs there in the final third is something else. And it's built using AGS.
Yes they still do, and fun fact, SummVM has integrated support for AGS a few releases back, so one of my favourite titles from Wadjet Eye Games, Unavowed, works great on a ton of different OSes/platforms.
Wow, I haven't heard about AGS for a while - glad to see it's still alive and well. It should be noted that it's open source and still sees regular updates (20+ years later!)
I remember the original author of AGS was strongly against open source back in the day. Nice to see he either recanted, or handed the reigns to someone who wasn't opposed.
Wow! 1999? I know I'm old when it feels almost like yesterday... (I knew it wasn't a recent development, but I still remember when I first heard of AGS as if it was yesterday!).
Blast from the past. In my mind, the Adventure Game Studio is forever tied to the ancient (German) Maniac Mansion Mania website [0]. Yes, that Maniac Mansion from Lucasfilm Games.
To this day, they’re are releasing fun new adventure episodes in the Maniac Mansion universe.
I made a game with Adventure Game Studio about 20 years ago, and Windows being Windows, it still runs fine on modern Windows, although I lost the source to it.
AGS is still a good engine for making games! AdventureX (https://www.adventurexpo.org/) is an annual convention held in London, UK (next one is 7-8th Nov this year), and lots of AGS users gather here. Some people are making games, while others are making modules for integrating libraries or new platforms (for handheld consoles, for example).
BTW, I hadn't realised they modernised their website. Until very recently they still had their version from 2006, looked quite nostalgic these days.
I have never tried AGS, but I cut my game making teeth on Klick and Play and RPG maker back in the day. I think I was intimidated by the amount of art and the level of story telling needed to craft an adventure game. I wish there was a mac version of this, since I refuse to go near windows at this point.
I had that! I wanted to write a game like Monkey Island but couldn't work out how to do an inventory system with what was available. I found some blog on the internet where an enterprising soul with the same issue described using prime numbers and a modulo calculation to make an integer act as a bitfield. I wish I could reread that for the nostalgia, seemed like magic at the time.
I moved on to RPG Maker and that was more my speed. I was really into JRPGs at that time.
I accomplished absolutely nothing with either software. I was stuck on imagining the perfect art and perfect story. That inaction remains in me to this day.
Haha same! I had Klik and Play, and The Games Factory. I spent ages trying to implement side scrolling in KnP. The crazy complicated action grids for the TGF example games with all their hidden objects to implement game mechanics helped convince me that it was easier to just learn C++. :)
RPG Maker XP (and later VX) were such a big part of my childhood! I never finished the game I was trying to make, but it is earliest I can remember being very deep into the creative process.
Hi! I've been following your work on GodotJS for a while now. Really cool stuff man, thanks for all the improvements you landed in GodotJS!
I think most of the people using Godot are not aware how powerful and ergonomic GodotJS actually is. All the intellisense and completion suggestions goodness when using GodotJS is a godsent.
Can you tell us a bit more about how making breaka club with GodotJS has been going for you?
- Are you using Godot as kind of a rendering frontend while your TypeScript code is rather self-contained and only interacts sparingly with the APIs exposed via GodotJS or is everything deeply intertwined? I'm curious because I'm still looking for a good GDScript replacement. I really dislike GDScript so much :(
- How has performance been? I'd imagine V8 with JIT be a lot faster than GDScript and probably within 2-3x of C#? But I guess one wouldn't be able to use V8 JIT on consoles or iOS? I wonder if the performance hit would be tolerable.
- Do you still have high-performance code you write with e.g. godot-cpp and if so, how's easy is it to make those things interact?
- I saw that there have been thoughts about migrating GodotJS to a GDExtension but it's not easy it seems? Would be a great long-term goal imo because not having to use a custom engine build and instead just plug in a GDExtension would be pretty convenient.
- I assume that one cannot use stuff like the node file system API or such things and one has to restrict themselves to JavaScript/TypeScript code that would also run in the browser?
Sorry for the flood of questions, no need to answer them all. Still curious about all of those things :)
Man, around 20 years ago, when I was a teenager, I used to noodle around AGS. I think I made a couple of "games", but never released them or anything. Glad to see it's still around!
Does anyone remember a similar commercial(?) application from maybe 10~20 years ago that was focussed specifically on point-and-click Myst-like adventure games? I think it didn't have scripting, at least not of the kind that AGS has. I can't remember what it was called.
Edit: Oh, it was Adventure Maker! And it had a free version: https://www.adventuremaker.com/ — Apparently stuff like scripting and sprites do exist, but only in the paid version. It's cool the website is still around.
I've created my own adventure game engine starting in the late 1990s. Only learned about the existence of AGS many years later. Although my own engine allows much more flexibility than AGS, there is no userfriendly IDE and besides the runtime, it's mostly just a bunch of separate tools. I have to applaud Chris Jones for going all the way, it's really quite impressive.
Unfortunately, Edward's project is just a runtime for running AGS games on Mac. The AGS Editor (the topic of the original post) is still Windows-only, and will likely always be due to its deep reliance upon Windows GUI libraries.
Oh wow completely forgot about AGS, awesome that it’s still alive and kicking! Brings back memories of Gabriel Knight, Broken Sword, Monkey Island and many other awesome adventure series!
The problem with these engines is you need to become familiar with both Godot as well as the point&click extension making them less suited as a first adventure authoring platform.
Randomly stumbled upon this yesterday when I learned that there is a Goblins 5 (released 2023) and it was built using AGS and it’s playable using ScummVM!
From what I can tell taking to people in the discord and stuff, people seem to do it all the time and not run into any issues.
Still, it would be neat if they got off winforms and switched to something like Avalonia
I remember looking at it about 20 (?) years ago and came back disappointed that I could not use it on my Mac.
Well, at least I was able to revive this feeling today... :-(
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventure_Construction_Set